Public meetings of the Payson Hold, documented for its citizens.
Edition 32 — Thursday, November 12, 2026
Published: November 12, 2026
Materials update — minutes now posted. The Payson Town Council held its regular meeting on Wednesday, October 28, 2026, at 4:00 PM, in the Town Council Chambers, Town Hall, 303 N Beeline Hwy, Payson, AZ 85541. In today's check (November 12), the town's Granicus listing carries the October 28 meeting with its agenda posted, a video of 2 hours, 1 minute, and its minutes now posted; the minutes of the October 14, 2026 meeting are also listed in Granicus. No written transcript of the October 28 meeting was posted. On the Town's official YouTube channel, two recordings titled "Town Council Proclamations 10.28.26" are posted: one of 2 hours, 1 minute, 32 seconds, matching the Granicus video's length, and one of 9 minutes, 16 seconds.
From the posted minutes: Mayor Stephen Otto called the meeting to order at approximately 4:00 PM, with all seven Council members present. The consent agenda was approved 7-0, including approval of the regular meeting minutes of September 9, 2026, and October 14, 2026, and the Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Pension Funding Policy. Town Manager Darren Coldwell reported on the sale of bonds to pay outstanding PSPRS debt; he also reported on the fall employee potluck and pumpkin contest and recognized Code Enforcement Officer Tiffany Brown-Cocroft as Employee of the Year. The second public hearing on Ordinance No. 2026-109 (Item F.1) was postponed to a later date, 6-1, after an executive session under Item H.4. The first public hearing on Ordinance No. 2026-110 (Item F.2) took no action, as it was the first hearing. The Waste Collection agreement for Fiscal Year 2027 (Item H.1) was awarded to Waste Management of Arizona in the amount of $63,827.30 per year, 7-0. Item H.2 was removed from the agenda at the Town Manager's request, to be addressed at a future meeting. On Item H.3, the Council reached consensus that no changes to the emergency clause policy were necessary. On Item H.4, the Town Attorney noted that no action was needed. Mayor Otto adjourned the meeting at approximately 5:47 PM.
From the published agenda, the meeting took up: approval of the regular meeting minutes of September 9, 2026, and October 14, 2026, and a Fiscal Year 2026-2027 Pension Funding Policy decision request (consent agenda, Items B.1 and B.2); a current events presentation by the Town Manager, Mayor, and/or Council Members (Item C); a second public hearing on Ordinance No. 2026-109, rezoning about 26.85 acres at 1504 W Country Club Dr (Gila County Parcel No. 304-13-001F) from R-3 (Multi-Family Residential) to Planned Area Development (PAD) with a Manufactured Home (MH) overlay for a 125-lot detached single-family manufactured-home residential community (Item F.1); a first public hearing on Ordinance No. 2026-110, amending Payson Town Code Title III (Administration), Chapter 34 (Magistrate Court), Section 34.02(C) (Magistrate Court personnel and manner of appointment) (Item F.2); approval of the Waste Collection agreement for Fiscal Year 2027 (Item H.1); a Professional Services Agreement between the Town of Payson and Collaborative Partnerships LLC to facilitate collaboration with Arizona State University regarding coursework for the development of a strategic plan for the 2026 Main Street/American Gulch initiative and the Rim Country Learning Landscape (Item H.2); Council Members Jim Ferris's and Charlie Bell's request to define policy for the emergency clause (Item H.3); and a proposed Escrow and Funding Agreement between the Town of Payson and Payson Golf Club, LLC relating to funding, right-of-way improvements, permit fees, and issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy in connection with the Infrastructure Development Agreement 24-001 (Resolution No. 3462), with a possible executive session (Item H.4). The agenda listed no items under Hearings and Appeals, Unfinished Business, or Miscellaneous.
The Council last met before this on Wednesday, October 14, 2026. The October 28 agenda packet, under consent Item B.1 above, included a document titled "Minutes for Payson Town Council - Regular - October 14, 2026.pdf" for approval at the October 28 meeting, and the October 28 minutes record that approval (see above). A recording of the October 14 meeting, titled "Town Council Meeting 10.14.26," is posted on the Town's official YouTube channel.
Agenda (October 28): October 28 agenda listing (Granicus)
Video (October 28, Granicus): Payson Town Council - Regular, October 28, 2026 (Granicus player, indexed by agenda item)
Recording (October 28, YouTube): "Town Council Proclamations 10.28.26" — 2 hours, 1 minute, 32 seconds (Town's YouTube) · "Town Council Proclamations 10.28.26" — 9 minutes, 16 seconds (Town's YouTube)
Recording (October 14): "Town Council Meeting 10.14.26" (Town's YouTube)
Agenda (October 14): October 14 agenda listing (Granicus)
Meetings page: Town Council Meetings and Agendas — Town of Payson
Minutes (October 28): Minutes for Payson Town Council - Regular - October 28, 2026 (Granicus)
Minutes (October 14): Minutes for Payson Town Council - Regular - October 14, 2026 (Granicus)
The October 28 minutes are now posted and documented above. The next meeting, held Tuesday, November 10, 2026, is documented in its own section below.
Day-after check. The Payson Town Council held its regular meeting yesterday, Tuesday, November 10, 2026, at 4:00 PM, in the Town Council Chambers, Town Hall, 303 N Beeline Hwy, Payson, AZ 85541. In today's check (November 12), the town's Granicus listing carries the November 10 meeting as its newest archived meeting, with its agenda posted and a video of 53 minutes; no minutes for the November 10 meeting are listed in that listing. A recording titled "Town Council Meeting: November 10, 2026" is posted on YouTube, described there as a recording of the Town Council meeting originally held on November 10, 2026. No written transcript of the meeting was posted in today's check. The day-before notice for this meeting ran in Edition 29 (November 9, 2026), and the meeting-day report ran in Edition 30.
From the published amended agenda, as displayed in the town's Granicus listing in today's check (November 12), the meeting took up: approval of the meeting minutes for the regular Council meeting of October 28, 2026; Resolution No. 2026-046, authorizing the Town of Payson to participate in the proposed class action settlements in the Aqueous Film-Forming Foams (AFFF) Products Liability Litigation relating to Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances (PFAS) contamination of drinking water — the agenda caption names Amerex Corporation, Archroma U.S., Inc., Carrier Global Corporation, and Nation Ford Chemical Company; approval of a Bridging Agreement between the Town of Payson and RingCentral Telecommunications, using the Sourcewell Cooperative Purchase Agreement, for the Town's Integrated Unified Communications-as-a-Service (UCaaS) Phone System; and a Council Decision Request to authorize Darren Coldwell, Town Manager, to submit the Participation Form for the Town to participate in the Opioid Settlement Agreements releasing all claims against Albertsons (consent agenda, Items B.1 through B.4); a current events presentation by the Town Manager, Mayor, and/or Council Members (Item C); a second public hearing on Ordinance No. 2026-110, amending Payson Town Code Title III (Administration), Chapter 34 (Magistrate Court), Section 34.02(C) (Magistrate Court personnel and manner of appointment) (Item F.1); Resolution No. 2026-045, appointing the Honorable Donald Garvin as Town Magistrate and authorizing the Town Manager to execute a Professional Services Agreement with him to provide Magistrate Services (Item F.2); Resolution No. 2026-047, approving a Memorandum of Understanding between the Town of Payson and the Payson Lions Club for the donation and delivery of a concession stand at Rumsey Park (Item F.3); Resolution No. 2026-048, approving Amendment No. One to the Intergovernmental Agreement (ADOT CAR No. IGA 25-0011438-I) between the Town of Payson and the State of Arizona, Department of Transportation, for scoping a wildfire evacuation route crossing the Tonto National Forest and along the south side of the Payson Event Center (Item F.4); a Water Utility Department Update by Water Utility Director Tanner Henry, added to the agenda on November 9, 2026, at 1:35 p.m. (Item H.1); and approval of the 2027 Regular Council Meeting Schedule, requested by Tracie Bailey, Town Clerk (Item H.2). The agenda as displayed states that Items H.3 through H.6 — appointments to fill vacancies on the Town boards and commissions, including the Board of Adjustment, the Building Advisory Board, and the Parks and Recreation Commission — were removed from the agenda on November 5, 2026, at 8:10 a.m. The agenda listed no items under Hearings and Appeals, Unfinished Business, or Miscellaneous. Per the agenda, Pastor Ardo Kario of Payson Church of the Nazarene was to give the invocation.
Agenda (November 10, amended): November 10 agenda listing (Granicus) · November 10, 2026 amended agenda (PDF, Granicus)
Video (November 10, Granicus): Payson Town Council - Regular, November 10, 2026 (Granicus player, indexed by agenda item)
Recording (November 10, YouTube): "Town Council Meeting: November 10, 2026" (YouTube)
Granicus listing: Payson Town Council meetings listing (Granicus)
Meetings page: Town Council Meetings and Agendas — Town of Payson
Minutes (November 10): not yet published in today's check (November 12).
The Ledger will check for the November 10 minutes as they are published.
Day-after check (Edition 24). The Board held its regular meeting on Tuesday, November 3, 2026, at 10:00 AM, in the Board of Supervisors' Hearing Room, Gila County Courthouse, 1400 East Ash Street, Globe; the meeting rooms opened to the public at 9:00 AM, the meeting was televised to the Gila County Tommie Cline Martin Complex, Board of Supervisors' Conference Room, 707 S. Colcord Road, Payson, and it was live-streamed on the county's YouTube channel. In today's check (November 12), the county's meeting system lists this meeting as its newest past meeting. Its revised agenda is posted there, a minutes file is posted there, and a written transcript of the recording is posted on the meeting's page; the transcript runs to 02:15:13.
From the published revised agenda, the meeting took up: a presentation on the Gila County Spotlight on Employees Program for November 2026, recognizing Kayle Lathrop, Ryan Cluff, Taylor Perez, and Evan Schmitz for their contributions to the Pinal Creek cesspool cleanup project in the Wheatfields area, including a final project presentation by the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality (ADEQ) (Item 2A); regular agenda items to approve the 2027 End User Agreement from Tyler Technologies, Inc. for Marshall & Swift Cost Data in the Assessor's application (Item 3A); a $24,000 increase to Blanket Purchase Order No. 2027-0146 with FX Tactical, LLC for Sheriff's Office uniforms, to $49,000 (Item 3B); Agreement No. DBF2026SB1735-SSI02 with the Arizona Department of Administration to accept $173,900 in School Safety Interoperability funding (Item 3C); U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Brownfields Assessment Cooperative Agreement No. BF-97T69401-0, $1,500,000, for October 1, 2026 through October 31, 2030, with no county matching requirement (Item 3D); Amendment No. 1 to Contract No. CTR068378-GC1 with American Guard Services, Inc. for armed security services, November 1, 2026 through October 31, 2027, at $462,375 (Item 3E); Economic Development Agreement No. 2027-0140 with Payson Gila County Sheriff's Posse, Inc., $9,000, for the Shop With a Hero Event (Item 3F); Proclamation 2026-05 designating Gila County as a County Supporting Operation Green Light (Item 3G); a licensing agreement with Salt River Project for SRP Doppler Services software (Item 3H); a one-time payment for eligible Gila County employees, at an estimated cost of $880,513.98 (Item 3I); continued public operations or a temporary operational pause from November 3, 2026 through March 31, 2027 at the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat (Item 3J); and economic development agreements with the Tonto Basin Fire District ($6,037.27, Item 3K), the Quilts of Valor Foundation, Heart 2 Heart Group 928, Inc. ($7,000, Item 3L), and The Tonto Basin Kiwanis Club ($1,500, Item 3M). The consent agenda (Items 4A through 4M) carried seven petitions for redemption of exemption waiver and September 2026 monthly reports. The meeting also held a call to the public, a work session item on financing options for the Buckhead Mesa Landfill Expansion, Townsite Act Purchase, and related capital expenditures (Item 8A), and an executive session item on the purchase or acquisition of the Central Heights Complex (Item 9A).
Agenda (November 3, revised): November 3, 2026 regular meeting revised agenda (county meeting system)
Minutes file (November 3): November 3, 2026 minutes file (county meeting system)
Meeting page and transcript (November 3): BOS Regular Meeting, November 3, 2026 — meeting page with recording and written transcript (county meeting system)
Meeting system: Gila County meeting management — past meetings list
Board page: Board of Supervisors — Gila County
The Board's 2026 meeting calendar lists the next regular meeting on Tuesday, November 17, 2026, and a work session on Tuesday, November 24, 2026.
Day-after check. In today's check (November 12), the county's meeting system now lists the November 3 regular meeting (below) as its newest past meeting; this meeting's agenda, minutes file, audio recording, and written transcript stand as posted, as documented below.
Same-day report (Edition 22). The Board held an emergency meeting today, Monday, November 2, 2026, at 10:00 AM, in the Board of Supervisors' Hearing Room, Gila County Courthouse, 1400 East Ash Street, Globe; the agenda states the meeting may be televised to the Gila County Tommie Cline Martin Complex, 707 S. Colcord Road, Payson. The agenda carried one item: information, discussion, and action to adopt Resolution No. 26-11-02 issuing a Declaration of Emergency due to flooding from the rainstorms in the Town of Payson, the Community of Tonto Basin, the Community of Gisela, and the Community of Dripping Springs, and authorizing the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors to take all further actions as may be necessary or appropriate to implement the Declaration under A.R.S. § 26-311 (item presented by Joshua Beck). The county's agenda document marks the item "Adopted with Revision." The background in the county's agenda system states that rainstorms beginning the evening of Friday, October 30, 2026, caused flooding and an emergency throughout the county. The minutes file posted in the county's meeting system carries the meeting's item text; it records no vote tally. An audio recording of the meeting, 10 minutes, 34 seconds, is posted on the meeting's page, and a written transcript of that recording is posted there with it.
Agenda (November 2 emergency meeting): November 2, 2026 emergency meeting agenda (county meeting system)
Minutes file (November 2 emergency meeting): November 2, 2026 minutes file (county meeting system)
Meeting page, audio recording, and transcript (November 2 emergency meeting): BOS Emergency Meeting, November 2, 2026 — meeting page with audio recording and written transcript (county meeting system)
Agenda page (county agenda system): November 2, 2026 emergency meeting agenda page — item marked "Adopted with Revision"
The regular meeting held yesterday, Tuesday, November 3, 2026, is documented in its own section above; its revised agenda, minutes file, and written transcript are posted in the county's meeting system.
Day-after check (carried from Edition 17). The Board held its work session on Tuesday, October 27, 2026, at 10:00 AM. In today's check (November 12), the county's meeting system lists the November 3 regular meeting as its newest past meeting; the work session's agenda, minutes file, and written transcript with clock times stand as posted. The meeting rooms opened to the public at 9:00 AM, the meeting was televised to the Gila County Tommie Cline Martin Complex, Board of Supervisors' Conference Room, 707 S. Colcord Road, Payson, and it was live-streamed on the county's YouTube channel.
From the published agenda, the work session took up five items, all listed as information and discussion: an operational update on the Buckhead Mesa and Russell Gulch Landfills (Item 2A); an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District on their sewer construction project (Item 2B); the status of flood recovery projects, associated funding resources, and the 220-day completion timeline requirements for NRCS Emergency Watershed Protection projects (Item 2C); Job Order Contracting (JOC) and Construction Task Catalogs (CTCs) as alternative procurement methods for county capital improvement, infrastructure, maintenance, and facilities projects, including potential use of cooperative purchasing agreements through Sourcewell, the Arizona Department of Administration (ADOA), and Yavapai County (Item 2D); and Gila County's Environmental Protection Agency Brownfields Assessment Grant, including the approved work plan, priority properties, budget, and planned implementation (Item 2E). The written transcript shows the Board took the items out of order: Item 2B was heard first, then Item 2A, then Item 2C, then Item 2E, then Item 2D.
From the written transcript, the flood recovery report (Item 2C) was presented as the final report on the 220-day projects: the projects have wrapped up and are in the final billing cycle. The report stated that the guaranteed maximum prices for the projects came in at just over $11.4 million, the billing to the county was $8.6 million, and $3.6 million was returned to the county. The work covered eight projects, about 20,000 tons of rip rap and over 9,000 cubic yards of shotcrete placed, about 47,000 labor hours and 35,000 equipment hours, with five NRCS projects completed between April 30 and September 30, 2026. On the Brownfields item (Item 2E), the transcript records the grant as $1.5 million, for the Copper Corridor, with Gila County as the lead and Globe, Miami, and Superior taking part.
The October 20 regular meeting, documented in Edition 13 (October 24), stands as previously reported: its agenda and minutes file are posted in the county's meeting system, and its recording is posted on the county's YouTube channel. No minutes or action summary for the October 6 meeting has been located.
Agenda (October 27 work session): October 27, 2026 work session agenda (county meeting system)
Minutes file (October 27 work session): October 27, 2026 minutes file (county meeting system)
Meeting page and transcript (October 27 work session): BOS Work Session, October 27, 2026 — meeting page with recording and written transcript (county meeting system)
Meeting system: Gila County meeting management — past meetings list
Agenda (October 20): October 20, 2026 regular meeting agenda (county meeting system)
Minutes file (October 20): October 20, 2026 minutes file (county meeting system)
Video (October 20): "Board of Supervisors Tues Mtg 10-20-26"
Video (October 6): "Board of Supervisors Tues Mtg 10-06-26"
Board page and 2026 meeting calendar: Board of Supervisors — Gila County (the 2026 meeting calendar is linked on this page)
Watch live: County Board meeting livestreams (YouTube)
Minutes / action summary (October 6): not yet located.
The Board's 2026 meeting calendar, read today (November 9) at the Board of Supervisors page on the county site, lists regular meetings on Tuesday, November 3, 2026 and Tuesday, November 17, 2026, and a work session on Tuesday, November 24, 2026. The November 3 regular meeting is documented in its own section above, with its revised agenda, minutes file, and written transcript posted.
Follow-up check. The Payson Police Department held its quarterly Community Update Meeting on Thursday, October 22, 2026, at 5:00 PM, at the Police Department. The meeting was announced October 5, 2026, on the department's CrimeWatch page. In today's follow-up check (November 11), the CrimeWatch page was re-opened: the announcement post is unchanged, and no follow-up post, recording, or minutes for the October 22 meeting had been published there.
Announcement: Payson Police Department — CrimeWatch page (post dated October 5, 2026)
Agenda: none published in the announcement post.
Minutes: not yet posted in today's check (November 12).
Video: none posted — no recording of this meeting appears on the announcement page.
The Ledger will document any recording or minutes for this meeting the day they appear.
The board held its regular October meeting on October 15. In today's check (November 12), the district's agendas page is unchanged: the October 2026 agenda is still the newest listing, and no November agenda or other follow-up posting has appeared. The page lists the remaining 2026 meetings as November 19 and December 17. The district posts agendas only — no minutes are published on its site, so no outcome record is expected there.
The October agenda, documented in Edition 4, covered an annual review presentation by Jere Jarrell, discussion of a meeting with East Verde Estates, and updates on the Freedom Acres tanks, the generator installation, and merging districts with East Verde Estates.
Agenda: October 2026 Regular Meeting Agenda (PDF)
Agendas page: Meeting Agendas — Houston Mesa Fire District
Minutes: none published — the district posts agendas only.
Next regular meeting: Thursday, November 19, 2026, 5:00 PM. Remaining 2026 meetings after that: December 17.
The commission held its regular session and a work session with executive meeting on October 5. Its agenda included approval of its September 14 minutes and a scheduled hearing on case P26-002, a proposed zone change at 1504 W Country Club Dr. — that case was heard by the Town Council on October 14 as Ordinance 2026-109 and again on October 28 for its second public hearing (see above). In today's check (November 12), the Granicus listing for October 5 still carries the agenda only; no minutes for the October 5 meeting had been published. The Granicus listing of upcoming meetings now shows Monday, December 7, 2026, at 3:00 PM as the only upcoming meeting — no November meeting is listed there in today's check; earlier editions carried November 2 from that listing, and no meeting was held on November 2.
Agenda: October 5 agenda listing (Granicus) · agenda (PDF)
Video: regular session · work session & executive meeting
Minutes: not yet published.
Next upcoming meeting shown in the Granicus listing: Monday, December 7, 2026, 3:00 PM, Town Council Chambers. No November meeting is listed there in today's check (November 12), and the commission holds no meeting today.
Materials update. Draft minutes for this meeting are now posted in the Board of Adjustment 2026 Minutes folder of the Town's document center; they were documented in Edition 22 (November 2). From the draft minutes: Acting-Chairman Alan Chittenden called the meeting to order at approximately 3:06 PM in the Town Hall Council Chambers, 303 North Beeline Highway, Payson, Arizona, with Chairman Micah Utterback and Members Pamela Jackson and Jack Pence also present. The board accepted the minutes of its May 11, 2026 meeting, 4-0. In the scheduled hearing on variance request V26-002, filed by Jerome and Jaretta Mahaffey, property owners, for 915 W Bridle Path Lane (APN 302-36-340A) — a variance from the applicable setback requirements to allow an existing carport conversion into habitable living space to remain on the property — Zoning Administrator Nicole Adams presented the staff report, Jerome Mahaffey answered the board's questions, and no public comments were made; board discussion covered the original building violation and the utility easement. The motion to approve Case No. V26-002, subject to the conditions outlined in the staff report, was moved by Micah Utterback and seconded by Pamela Jackson. The draft minutes record the result in these words: "Vote: Motion failed for lack of majority 3-1." The variance was therefore not approved. The draft's own lists of members under Yes and No do not line up with that result line as printed, and the document is a draft, unsigned and watermarked DRAFT; the Ledger reports the result line as printed and will check the final approved minutes when they are posted. The draft minutes record no item on the proposed 2027 meeting schedule that the agenda had listed. The meeting adjourned at approximately 3:36 PM.
Agenda: October 6 agenda (PDF)
Draft minutes: Board of Adjustment Minutes 10-6-26 DRAFT (PDF, Town document center)
Final approved minutes: not yet posted in today's check (November 12).
Video: none — the board is not among the town's streamed bodies.
The draft minutes document the variance outcome: the motion to approve failed 3-1, so the variance was not approved. The Ledger will check the final approved minutes when they are posted.
U.S. Forest Service / Tonto National Forest: the forest projects page was re-checked today (November 12); no new Payson-area public meeting or comment period was identified in that listing. Tonto National Forest projects page
Water Wheel Fire & Medical District: the minutes of the district's regular meeting of Thursday, June 25, 2026, are posted on the district's site and were documented in Edition 12. In today's check (November 12), no minutes newer than June 25, 2026, were found, and no October meeting could be confirmed from public sources. Minutes — June 25, 2026 regular meeting (PDF) The Ledger will confirm by phone (928-474-3088).
Still being tracked: the minutes of the November 10 Town Council meeting; any recording, minutes, or follow-up posting for the October 22 Police Department Community Update Meeting; any minutes or action summary for the October 6 Supervisors meeting; the October 5 Planning & Zoning minutes and a timestamped viewing guide for its recording; whether a November Planning & Zoning meeting is scheduled, since the Granicus upcoming listing still shows December 7 only; the final approved minutes of the October 6 Payson Board of Adjustment meeting (its draft minutes record that the motion to approve variance V26-002 failed 3-1); and confirmation of the Water Wheel October meeting. Each will be documented the day it appears.
Tuesday, November 17, 10:00 AM — Gila County Board of Supervisors, regular meeting, Gila County Courthouse, Board of Supervisors' Hearing Room, 1400 E Ash St, Globe (televised to Payson, 707 S Colcord Rd), per the Board's 2026 meeting calendar. The day-before notice is due in the November 16 edition.
Thursday, November 19, 3:00 PM — Payson Town Council, special session, Town Council Chambers, Town Hall, 303 N Beeline Hwy, per the Town's boards and commissions schedule page. Boards, Commissions & Committees Meetings and Agendas — Town of Payson (2026 schedule listing) The day-before notice is due in the November 18 edition.
Thursday, November 19, 5:00 PM — Houston Mesa Fire District board, Fire Station in Mesa del Caballo. The day-before notice is due in the November 18 edition.
Tuesday, November 24, 10:00 AM — Gila County Board of Supervisors, work session, per the Board's 2026 meeting calendar.
Monday, December 7, 3:00 PM — Planning & Zoning Commission, regular session, Town Council Chambers. This is the only upcoming meeting shown in the Granicus listing in today's check (November 12); no November meeting is listed there.
Wednesday, December 9, 4:00 PM — Payson Town Council, regular meeting, Town Council Chambers, Town Hall, 303 N Beeline Hwy, per the Town's boards and commissions schedule page.
Thursday, December 17, 5:00 PM — Houston Mesa Fire District board, Fire Station in Mesa del Caballo, per the district's agendas page.